Sunday, June 28, 2009

TV on the Internet, Episode 13: Some Unpopular Opinions for You

We've got special guests on this week -- Myles McNutt of Cultural Learnings and Carrie Raisler of, and we're going to be discussing our unpopular TV opinions. To that end, we're going to express our secret loves of Everybody Loves Raymond, The Mentalist, vampires and The Secret Life of the American Teenager. Also, Todd and Libby look at the week in celebrity death and Fox's Virtuality. Please keep voting for us on iTunes! Your reviews and ratings have us climbing the ranks, and we will NOT BE STOPPED.

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TV on the Internet, Episode 13: Some Unpopular Opinions for You

Here's a direct link to the episode.

Time codes follow. There are MAJOR SPOILERS for a variety of shows, so you may want to skip over a segment if you haven't watched the shows discussed therein.


00:00.00-00:02.00: Introductions and music from Drinkme
00:02.01-00:14.22: The week's headlines.
00:14.23-00:20.30: Libby and Todd review Fox's backdoor pilot for Virtuality.
00:20.31-01:12.45: Myles and Carrie join Todd and Libby as they discuss their unpopular TV opinions.
01:12.46-01:19.32: The classic TV on DVD pick, the wrap-up, more from Drinkme and an outtake.

Headline Links:

Michael Jackson -- Cardiac Arrest (TMZ)
Farrah Fawcett Dies of Cancer at 62 (People)
Ed McMahon 1923-2009 (The Washington Post)
Reports: Walter Cronkite ailing (Entertainment Weekly)
Jon and Kate plus 10.6M (Philadelphia Inquirer)

This Week's Music:

Service WIth A Snarl EPDrinkme
"Buildings Burn Down" (mp3)
from "Service WIth A Snarl EP"
(Impossible Things)

More On This Album

Clips are from Motown 25: Yesterday, Today and Forever (Michael Jackson performance of "Billie Jean"), Virtuality (episode: "Pilot," script by Michael Taylor from a story by Ron Moore and Michael Taylor), The Sopranos (episode: "Pilot," script by David Chase), Deadwood (episode: "I Am Not the Fine Man You Take Me For," script by Regina Corrado and David Milch), The Secret Life of the American Teenager (episode: "And Unto Us a Child Is Born," script by Brenda Hampton), True Blood (episode: "The First Taste," script by Alan Ball) and Wonderfalls (episode: "Karma Chameleon," script by Tim Minear).


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Jason Mittell said...

Nice podcast with guests. Totally agree with Todd on Raymond (best family sitcom since Cosby), and partly with Carrie on Sopranos (although s1 is still great).

Lily can't judge The Wire on just s1 & 5, and I disagree that characters aren't allowed to win on that show - the (few) "successes" it portrays are the most satisfying and rewarding I've experienced in any medium.

On Myles and Lost s3: I agree with Todd that the context of the original viewing was crucial - we knew it was a stand-alone chunk of eps that allegedly had some unity, and thus our expectations were misaligned with the pacing it delivered. Looking back at my own blog griping about these eps, it's all about the cliffhanger, which ceases to matter now that it's bundled on DVD.

Shan said...

Nice podcast, and it was interesting to hear the guests and different POVs.

Loved Virtuality, and hope someone does an interview with Taylor or RDM to find out what the "rabbit hole" was going to be. (Though there is the chance RDM might say "it just sounded cool, and we hadn't thought that far in advance," or "God.").

As for the unpopular opinions, I agreed with some (like Lost S3 - more a victim of scheduling than horrible storytelling), understood though disagreed with others (Sopranos) and don't have a frame of reference for one (I don't think I could be compelled to watch "Secret Life"). But not appreciating "Burn Notice?!" Does Not Compute.

Good stuff, TVOTI.

Seange said...

People seem to forget that The Sopranos was a very, very funny show, at times. It definitely had its grim moments, and was more drama than comedy, but I think it often gets unfairly portrayed as relentlessly grim or dark, when it was often hilarious and entertaining.

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